View Full Version : NEW AVENGERS #2 ADVANCE REVIEW
Andrea Speed
December 30th 2004, 05:55 PM
Reviewer: Andrea Speed andy@comixtreme.com
Quick Rating: Good
Title: Breakout! Part 2
The prisoners riot, leaving all our heroes in a bad position.
<a href="http://www.comixtreme.com/gallery/data/media/45/newav2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.comixtreme.com/gallery/data/thumbnails/45/newav2.jpg" align="left" border="0"> </a>Writer: Brian Michael Bendis
Pencils: David Finch
Inks: Danny Miki with Mark Morales
Colors: Frank D'Armata
Letters: Richard Starkings & Comicraft's Albert Deschesne
Editor: Tom Brevoort
Cover Art: Finch & Miki
Publisher: Marvel
Review: Well, if you've seen the preview pages on the web, you already know of the incident that will supposedly lead to Spider-Man and family moving into Avengers tower in the near future. Mind you, it's not spelled out at all, it's just it's easy to extrapolate from the incident herein.
And this will be a tough issue to review, simply because it's mostly an extended action sequence, where people get the living snot beaten out of them by various villains, although some of the heroes do a little head pounding themselves. There is actually somewhat comic sequence between Luke Cage and a member of Spidey's rogue gallery, where the villain seems unable to grasp the concept of Luke's unbreakable skin. While at first he’s somewhat blas' about it, Luke gets increasingly irritated with the guy's inability to understand he can't hurt him. He might be a vicious bad guy, but he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Sadly, that's about all that stands out in what is basically a very generic action issue. It starts picking up at the end, where a wicked twist - one that Bendis has used before (somewhat) in Alias, but it's still a good one - comes into play. And there's something interesting about the letter column at the end of this issue. Most comics publish nothing but laudatory letters, but this letter column is full of scathing rebukes, save for two letters, the editors' way of acknowledging the controversy and answering charges.
Finch does a good job on the art, especially in the scenes where there's a sea of rather ugly, angry prisoners looking at the heroes or looking at us. There is a problem in facial close ups, mainly that some of the villains looks so much like one another in close ups they could be related, if not exactly mistaken for one another. But the art is generally sharper than it was in Avengers, and while the fight scenes are a bit chaotic, they're supposed to be. The coloring by D'Armata is realistic and dark, but I wouldn't have minded if it was a little brighter. I know it's a power black out, but there are times I would have appreciated a bit more clarity.
I'm still on board with this series, but I hope it really kicks into high gear after this.
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Terry Verticchio
December 30th 2004, 06:24 PM
I read a preview in popcultureshock. And when Spidey was being attacked by the inmates, I couldn't help but think...he can flip cars, press 20+ tons, but suddenly he gets unmasked and his wrist broken by a bunch of convicts...okay, sure, whatever. I just can't bring myself to get into the series. Or I'm cheap.
Lord_Magneto
December 30th 2004, 06:35 PM
let me guess Andrea - Cap barely gets hurt, right?
Andrea Speed
December 30th 2004, 06:47 PM
That's a spoiler possibly, LM.
(But how did you guess? :LOL: )
Ammar Al Subahi
December 30th 2004, 07:00 PM
Is Carnage jobbing to Cage?? PLEASE don't tell me it's so
Lord_Magneto
December 30th 2004, 07:04 PM
Bendis is an open comic-book to me:p
Ammar Al Subahi
December 30th 2004, 07:11 PM
oh man...just wait until I'll write for Marvel....I'll abuse Bendis' characters soooooooo much in my titles...
Luke Cage will change his name to Luke Dibny after I'm done f****ng with Bendis.
Terry Verticchio
December 30th 2004, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Carnage
Luke Cage will change his name to Luke Dibny after I'm done f****ng with Bendis.
Oh that's just too nasty, Carnage. ;)
Ammar Al Subahi
December 30th 2004, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by estee
Oh that's just too nasty, Carnage. ;)
oh you better belive me, everyone on from A-list villains like Loki, Doom, Magneto to C-list villains like Shocker, Stilt-Man and the friggin Spot will have a piece of that sweet unbreakable butt :devil: :#
Okami
December 31st 2004, 04:50 AM
Originally posted by Carnage
Is Carnage jobbing to Cage?? PLEASE don't tell me it's so
What's funny is supposedly Carnage is literally torn in half by Sentry
So, that's considerably worse than just jobbing to Cage.
Bad_Monkey
December 31st 2004, 05:00 AM
Supposedly, nothing. My shop has the issue in the preview pack. It happens. The horrible excuse for a character that was Carnage is no more. Praise God!
Picard
December 31st 2004, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by Bad_Monkey
Supposedly, nothing. My shop has the issue in the preview pack. It happens. The horrible excuse for a character that was Carnage is no more. Praise God!
You know, I have no problem with that. Sentry has the potential to be Marvels Superman, but a little darker and more vicious, which is great :)
This must be the issue I most look forward to in 2005 so far... :)
Ammar Al Subahi
December 31st 2004, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by Bad_Monkey
Supposedly, nothing. My shop has the issue in the preview pack. It happens. The horrible excuse for a character that was Carnage is no more. Praise God!
One word: Shut Up. Okay that was two words :)
agree with Picard, atleast he didn't job to Cage....
*note to myself* Bendis is soooooooooooooooo dead if I meet him alone in a dark alley
Lord_Magneto
December 31st 2004, 08:58 AM
in general i have no problem with no-more carnage, but this seems like typical Bendis/Millar kill big names just because we can.
Mark Blicharz
December 31st 2004, 09:09 AM
Spoiler tags please.
Blade X
December 31st 2004, 04:08 PM
If you guys go and read the solicitation's for the march issue of Amazing Spider-Man, you will be able to figure out the REAL reason why Peter and family move to Avengers Tower.
Andrea Speed
December 31st 2004, 04:44 PM
Yeah, a little too much spoiler leakage here. Everybody watch it ....
Picard
January 6th 2005, 05:59 PM
Just read it. GREAT STUFF!
But somehow I don't think we've seen the last of Carnage. It kinda looked like Cassidy wasn't even apart of him anymore, and I'm pretty sure the symbiot can survive being torn apart
Finch is probably one of my 3 favorite artists of all time. His Iron Man looks ridicilously good.
The only think I can complain about is that peoples faces can ge a little bit too similair sometimes.
AmazingMattMan
January 7th 2005, 04:59 PM
anyone notice in the very last panal spider man has his mask on again? i know it was just an oversight but still. spider man is favorite character and im just being a lil nit-picky
Picard
January 7th 2005, 05:32 PM
I just read New Avengers #1 - Directors Cut, and there they had pages of small bios of the inmates. One thing that really surprised me was that Molecule Man was one of the inmates.
Ryan Broussard
January 7th 2005, 06:56 PM
this was good and i enjoyed alot of it, however i really no nothing of sentry and i hope bendis fills in some history for those like me
tgregory123
January 8th 2005, 01:56 PM
great issue, I loved it. But I dont think carnage is dead. He just got messed up pretty bad. Maybe Cassidy is dead, but not carnage.
i also would like bendis to go into sentry's past. I never even heard of him before this.
Dino Pollard
January 8th 2005, 03:47 PM
oh man...just wait until I'll write for Marvel....I'll abuse Bendis' characters soooooooo much in my titles...
Yes, because abusing a person's favorite character just because you can is so much better than what Bendis is doing... :rolleyes:
this was good and i enjoyed alot of it, however i really no nothing of sentry and i hope bendis fills in some history for those like me
i also would like bendis to go into sentry's past. I never even heard of him before this.
Why wait for Bendis to do it? Pick up the trade of The Sentry limited series. Great stuff.
And I'm with BM -- thank the comic gods that Carnage is dead. And people please, get the name right -- it's KASADY, not Cassidy. He's not related to Banshee.
Ammar Al Subahi
January 8th 2005, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by Dino Pollard
Yes, because abusing a person's favorite character just because you can is so much better than what Bendis is doing... :rolleyes:
Why wait for Bendis to do it? Pick up the trade of The Sentry limited series. Great stuff.
At least my abusage will make sense :p And atleast I won't be using their ultimate counterparts
Dino Pollard
January 8th 2005, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Carnage
At least my abusage will make sense :p
It doesn't make any more sense than Bendis' abuse. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Ammar Al Subahi
January 8th 2005, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Dino Pollard
It doesn't make any more sense than Bendis' abuse. Two wrongs don't make a right. ¨
belive me it would, and it would teach Bendis not to use his damn puppets in every major MU event. And Bendis shoul stay the hell away from anything related to Spiderman
Picard
January 8th 2005, 03:58 PM
And people please, get the name right -- it's KASADY, not Cassidy. He's not related to Banshee.
Wow, my "Geek-a-tron 2000" just exploded due to overload.
:)
Dino Pollard
January 8th 2005, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Carnage
belive me it would, and it would teach Bendis not to use his damn puppets in every major MU event. And Bendis shoul stay the hell away from anything related to Spiderman
It wouldn't teach him anything. If anything, he'd just do the same thing to more characters he doesn't like.
As for Bendis staying away from anything related to Spider-Man, so far Ultimate Spider-Man is one of the most entertaining Spider-Man books I've read in a long time. Once you produce something on par with that, then we'll talk.
Ammar Al Subahi
January 8th 2005, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by Dino Pollard
It wouldn't teach him anything. If anything, he'd just do the same thing to more characters he doesn't like.
As for Bendis staying away from anything related to Spider-Man, so far Ultimate Spider-Man is one of the most entertaining Spider-Man books I've read in a long time. Once you produce something on par with that, then we'll talk.
Thing is, ULTIMATE Spiderman IS NOT the same as 616 Spiderman, that's what I'm talking about. I don't give a f*** about the ultimates line, Bendis can do whatever he wants to it. But he has to learn the difference between 616 and Ultimate. because his Peter Parker acts just like a teen ager, and Carnage in NA 2 was acting as his Ultimate counterpart. And don't even get me into the **** he did in The pulse with Norman Osborn.
Bendis is totally overrated, his dialouges are predictable and many of his characters acts like teenagers.
I wonder why the editors of Marvel do when they are working? Smoke pot? It seems as if Marvel is tottally run by Bendis & Millar nowadays.
Adam Chapman
January 8th 2005, 04:32 PM
Whoa there, Carnage...
I have to admit that over the past year I've found myself falling off the Bendis bandwagon, as I think he almost writes too much and sometimes it shows. Sometimes his style works, sometimes it doesn't, that's just the way it goes. Personally, for the most part I still enjoy Ultimate Spider-Man, although not nearly as much as I used to, and Daredevil hasn't been this entertaining in quite a while. :p
Mark Blicharz
January 8th 2005, 05:24 PM
Relax yourself Carnage, yeah I understand how you feel, but you're getting a little carried away.
SamuraiDaddy
January 9th 2005, 02:03 AM
I think he's spreading himself too thin. I think he should take some time off from writing eleventy-billion titles a year and just concentrate on a few.
Dino Pollard
January 9th 2005, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by SamuraiDaddy
I think he's spreading himself too thin. I think he should take some time off from writing eleventy-billion titles a year and just concentrate on a few.
I agree. He's doing good work on Daredevil and Powers, so he should definitely keep those two on his plate. Ultimate Spider-Man is still good, but not as good as it has been in the past. And neither The Pulse nor New Avengers interest me in the slightest to pick them up.
Personally, I'd like to see Bendis write Moon Knight or Heroes For Hire (just Cage and Iron Fist). C'mon Marvel -- he's a big name now, why not use his name to give the spotlight to some lesser-known characters? And we know Bendis is a fan of those three characters. Besides, Avengers and Spider-Man will sell no matter who's writing them.
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