Bone Claw Wolverine vs. Superman

[Ashley Riot]

Keep in mind that BC Wolverine:

1) did more damage to Thanos than he did with adamantium. Heck, he drew more blood than Odin did.
2) defeated IMMORTAL Hercules
3) defeated Lobo
4) cut through Onslaught's forcefields
5) took down Vision and his teammates
6) is quite possibly the best Clix version of Wolverine
7) healed instantly from being hit by a car
8) did so well against Savage Hulk that they retconned it into being a Skrull (how is that a good retcon?)

Well? Does Old James roll with the punches like he does with other Class 100ers? Does he carve up Blue like he's done to everyone else? Can his quicker than the human eye superspeed save him?

[Craig Reade]

Wolverine, when written properly, can't even beat Spider-Man

Superman 110% of the time.

[Ashley Riot]

Wonder Woman said Spider-Man was faster than Pre-Crisis Flash.

[Adam Chapman]

Bone Claw wolverine is definitely NOT the best version of Wolverine as a heroclix figure. :p

[libra_libertine]

Thanos, Hulk, Hercules and Vision could put Logan in his place. Lobo was bribed into losing, apparently.

Adamantium Wolverine i think........

9) Cut Lord Thor's arm off after Strange after/while Strange took the odinforce away.
10) cut Surfer
11) cut Apocalypse
12) cut Colossus
13) cut Thing's face and scared him

Plus i do not support the feats shown above.

[Picard]

Superman 10/10.

not sure if the last 4 were bone claws. Plus i do not support the feats shown above.

None of those 5 you posted were boneclaws

[Ashley Riot]

The Lobo being bribed thing is a board myth.

When did Wolverine cut Surfer or Colossus?

BTW, what would you say the best version of Wolverine is? James Howlett? He's got Impervious.

[libra_libertine]

Well Surfer was a What If and Colossus everyone says Wolverine can cut him so it must have happened.

The Lobo thing was stated in that topic abotu how crossovers were canon and it sounded convincing what was referenced in Young Justice.

[Ashley Riot]

Pretty sure it's a board myth started by SNUS (may he rest in peace) to test how gullible posters are.

I have a full run of Young Justice.

What Ifs aren't meant to be taken seriously. They're not in continuity.

[TNC]

Originally posted by Craig Reade
Wolverine, when written properly, can't even beat Spider-Man

Superman 110% of the time.

Superman would win 100%, but I DISAGREE with Logan NOT being able to beat Spider-Man, it just depends on the situation.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by libra_libertine
Thanos, Hulk, Hercules and Vision could put Logan in his place. Lobo was bribed into losing, apparently.

Adamantium Wolverine i think........

9) Cut Lord Thor's arm off after Strange after/while Strange took the odinforce away.
10) cut Surfer
11) cut Apocalypse
12) cut Colossus
13) cut Thing's face and scared him

Plus i do not support the feats shown above.

Wolverine HAS done ALL of that but most of it isn't in continuity, I believe. Thats not to say that he CAN'T do it though.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ashley Riot
Keep in mind that BC Wolverine:


6) is quite possibly the best Clix version of Wolverine

Are you SERIOUS?!?

"Logan", "Unique Wolverine", "Universe Wolverine", "Ultimate Wolverine" >>>>> Bone Claw Wolverine with his wack 2 clix of regen!!!! WTF is THAT?!!? How is Logan (the man who basically "coined" healing factors) gonna have such a weak representation of it in clix?!? Logan should NEVER have a blank spot in his defense slot in clix. It should always be toughness (or SS or Willpower) straight into regen. NEVER a blank spot.


NOW, Logan LOSES this fight and I DO think that Logan has some showings that shouldn't be counted as fact, but for the most part Logan has proved he can hang with class 100s and super-strong guys. Superman would stomp him, but I believe that Adamantium clawed Logan WOULD be able to break the skin slightly enough to cut Superman IF he allowed himself TO be cut, which he wouldn't though.


:mad: <------ ICEGRILL @ THIS THREAD AND THE LOGAN HATE

[AngraMainyu]

Yeah... this just gets me wondering though... would adamantium wolvie be able to slice Supes?

[Picard]

Originally posted by AngraMainyu
Yeah... this just gets me wondering though... would adamantium wolvie be able to slice Supes?

I believe so yes. Maybe not fullout stab him, but atleast be able to draw blood.

[Mark Blicharz]

He shouldn't be able to put enough force behind the blow to cut anyone anywhere near Superman's durability range.

[Ashley Riot]

No no no, my friends. The real question is if Bone Claw Wolves can cut the Man of Steel.

[Adam Chapman]

No, he couldn't. It's just bone, no different than anything else that's sharp and crude. :p

[Ashley Riot]

Tell that to Doomsday. Oh what now

[Adam Chapman]

Doomsday fought Superman for a long time, and he only cut Superman badly after Supes had had a fair amount of drainage of energy from his stores. Wolverine couldn't possibly last long enough to drain Superman far enough for the bone to cut him.

[Ashley Riot]

I'm preeeetty sure he cut him when they first met.

[Adam Chapman]

He didn't cut him with his bone protrusions until Man of Steel #19, the second last issue of the Doomsday story- the 6th part of the story- that spanned MOS #18, Justice League of America #69, Superman #74, Adventures of Superman #397, Superman in Action Comics #684, MOS #19 and Superman #75. :p

[Terry Verticchio]

Supes wins.

The concept of Wolverine have bone-claws was always kinda lame to me. I don't know the extent of his power at the time, but I still don't think it'd be enough to beat Big Blue.

[Magnus2k]

Originally posted by Adam Chapman
Doomsday fought Superman for a long time, and he only cut Superman badly after Supes had had a fair amount of drainage of energy from his stores. Wolverine couldn't possibly last long enough to drain Superman far enough for the bone to cut him.

That and the fact that Doomsday had about 1000 times more strength swinging the claw then Logan would have.

[Adam Chapman]

Heh, that too. :p (Leave it to me to miss the more obvious point. :p)

[TNC]

Originally posted by SSJGOKU555
He shouldn't be able to put enough force behind the blow to cut anyone anywhere near Superman's durability range.

I somewhat agree, but history and performance proves otherwise, so you REALLY can't argue against it much.

[Mark Blicharz]

Stupid Marvel letting Logan do things he shouldn't be able to do.

[TNC]

Originally posted by SSJGOKU555
Stupid Marvel letting Logan do things he shouldn't be able to do.

Its not Marvel, its comis PERIOD that let popular character get away with "murder". Batman and Reed SHOULDN"T be able to outprep ANYONE or ANYTHING at any given time, Spider-Man shold be able to beat the X-Men and all the extremely powerful people he beats, Logan shouldn't be able to cut half the things he does, but all this HAPPENS!

[Mark Blicharz]

In some cases, the abilities get blown out of proportion further here. Batman got the god-like prep abilities due to his plans for defeating the JLA, but it took years for him to get them together. Reed can come up with new things on the fly very easily. Spidey is agile enough to hold off if not beat that team of X-men the way he did. Notice most of the list you gave is Marvel. :P

[Magnus2k]

Originally posted by TNC
Its not Marvel, its comis PERIOD that let popular character get away with "murder". Batman and Reed SHOULDN"T be able to outprep ANYONE or ANYTHING at any given time, Spider-Man shold be able to beat the X-Men and all the extremely powerful people he beats, Logan shouldn't be able to cut half the things he does, but all this HAPPENS!

The thing is, some of that is concievable and either only happens once, or is within character. Like Reed and Batman. That is part of their strengths, their minds. Its been like that for years. The spidey thing with the X-Men, only happened once. Now I like Logan, but he is to inconsistant. One min he's getting his *** handed to him by run of the mill ninjas, and next thing he's going toe to toe with the Hulk and cutting Thanos. He's all over the board with his moves.

[AngraMainyu]

I don't know how anyone can compare Logan's bones to Doomsday's bone protrusions. I mean... I guess they're both bones... but that's really the only comparison you can even try to make. Not to mention that I'm sure they're not made of the same substance. And Doomsday is beyond stronger than Logan.

Anyway, this fight is so lopsided it's not even funny. I mean, perhaps if Logan had his adamantium claws coated in kryptonite, then perhaps this could be different... well, it'd be a far better chance than bone Wolverine anyway.

[SonicGoku]

Okay:

Wolverine with the adamantium claws, yes, could quite possibly cut Superman. However, Logan doesn't have the physical strength to actually drive the claws into Superman's uber-dense body. To put it another way, we all know a kitchen knife could cut MY body, but if the person trying to stab me only has the strength of a tiny gnat comparitively, that knife isn't going to go into to skin far, if at all.

That being said, Wolverine with the bone claws has NO HOPE of EVER cutting Superman. The only way would be to deprive Superman of solar energy for a full decade, and even then, Logan's claws would break in the process.

And yes, I am well aware that Doomsday did it with HIS boney protrusions. But Doomsday is on Superman's level and HIS bone structure is on par with Superman's durability.

[Mighty Kal]

:LOL: Poor wolvie will broke his lame bone claws on Supes body.:LOL:

[KID MUSCLE]

Superman wins this one.

[SonicGoku]

Superman every time. BC Wolverine has no way to hurt him, and can only heal from damage provided Supes doesn't just fly him into the upper stratosphere and make him pass out from no air.