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Justin Byrd
January 13th 2006, 11:19 AM
What is the all time most evil act the Joker has ever committed? Let's say that Elseworlds count. I'll give a few examples off the top of my head:
1. Shooting Barbara Gordon in the spine, crippling her...then taking nude photos of her to drive Jim insane. (Killing Joke)
2. Beating Robin to death with a crowbar, then setting a bomb for him and his mom, then locking the door on the way out. (Death in the Family)
3. Killing Lois Lane. (Kingdom Come)
4. Kidnapping babies and then Killing Sarah Essen Gordon. (No Man's Land)
5. Killing an entire studio audience, then killing kids at a county fair, followed by breaking his own neck (that Batman started) to make him look like a murderer. (Dark Knight Returns)
6. Killing Robin and Batgirl by ripping them to shreds while holding Batman's eyes open. (The Nail)
Feel free to note which is the most evil, and by all means add more to my makeshift list.
Blake Petit
January 13th 2006, 11:26 AM
From an objective standpoint, I'd say killing that entire audience, then framing Batman for his own murder. The most death, the most bloodshed all at once.
From a personal standpoint, what he did to Barbara Gordon still stands out to me as the most gut-wrenching.
Gabriel Sosa
January 13th 2006, 11:51 AM
It is a hard one, I do believe the artwork on that scenes influences a lot the outcome. If the death of Sarah Essen had been drawn by Eaglesham it would have looked a lot more evil. (I still believe Eaglesham did not draw those pages because they wanted to diminish the effect somehow)
I agree with Blake on objectively the more the deaths the more evil.
On the other hand Stalin (I am not a big fan of him, just in case) said:"A single death is a tragedy; thousands, just statistics".
As evilness goes what he did to Barbara was depraved beyond belief.
What he did to Robin was bad, but very in character, since the scene was meant to be funny, because of the overkill, and the dramatic locking the door.
Now the Robin, Batgirl stuff in the nail, that is plainly sadistic.
Since three of those actions were comitted on elseworlds stories and it could be argued that it is a different or changed Joker, I would have to choose what he did to Babs, because if you are left alive to suffer for a while to consider what you lost, and being abused that way is traumatizing, and certainly might haunt you throughout your life, while if you are killed your suffering ended already, and you will not be haunted by the memories of the experience.
AmazingMattMan
January 13th 2006, 04:02 PM
wearing a purple stripped suit
LeatherWings
January 13th 2006, 06:50 PM
Stealing the report card from that kid.
But yeah seriously even if he didn't rape Babs, the Killing Joke still takes the cake. Personally I say the one thing that needs to be done this crisis is Babs+Jason's knive--->Joker's heart.
I mean someone's got to kill the guy sometime, I mean he's had it coming since like 1940.
Joe Illidge
January 13th 2006, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by Gabriel Sosa
It is a hard one, I do believe the artwork on that scenes influences a lot the outcome. If the death of Sarah Essen had been drawn by Eaglesham it would have looked a lot more evil. (I still believe Eaglesham did not draw those pages because they wanted to diminish the effect somehow)
Nah, dude.
Dale was not the fastest penciller in the world, and we had to get him cracking on GOTHAM KNIGHTS #1.
You're right, though. It would've looked more hardcore, like the Joker's multiple shooting of the Huntress.
Six_Winged
January 14th 2006, 03:11 AM
i'd say the killing joke with babs and his kid murdering appearance. I was really appalled by that and thought batman was stupid around those times for letting him live.
Gabriel Sosa
January 14th 2006, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by Joe Illidge:
Nah, dude.
Dale was not the fastest penciller in the world, and we had to get him cracking on GOTHAM KNIGHTS #1.
Thank you, Joe. I love when we get this kind of insight :)
You're right, though. It would've looked more hardcore, like the Joker's multiple shooting of the Huntress.
He was my favorite penciller in the No Man's Land "arc", most of the pencillers were awesome, but his artwork was so fitting, specially on that issue, Huntress was awesome. I wonder why his art looks a little bit different on Villains United, it still looks pretty good, it must be the inker.
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