Action Comics #837

[bugsypal86]

Well now that Superboy's fate has been pretty much conclusively proven He has a statue for his death in IC. I am a little angry because he has been one of my favorite characters at DC since his conception. Mind you I felt the dialogue in his series is a little childish but come on he was Superboy. With his death, which I am positive wont be reversed, I am truly saddened. Also, on a more story centric note, Superman gets a green lantern ring. This is interesting but I hope he actually gets his powers back.

[Jiggaman Tiga]

i tell you what....that stings.

Connor was easily my favorite superman type character. And he was just starting to come into his own also. the future version of him in the Titans looked like a beast....but then again, I always thought there were too many Superman knockoff running around...i just wish that it was Supergirl instead. dangit...it still hurts...

[Blake Petit]

Y'know...

I've been worried for some time that Conner would die, but seeing the statue... It disturbed me at first, but now that I've thought about it, it actually give me a little hope. I don't think DC would give away such a major story point in a OYL book before it happened in Crisis.

I think it's a red herring.

I think Conner will be THOUGHT dead, but will actually survive. In fact, I bet he turns out to be that Supernova that we've heard rumors about...

[Jiggaman Tiga]

man, blake i hope that u are right. i have been stumping for him since day one. i got his entire series and a lot of his guest appearances in crossover events for his series....number 1 fan here. lol

[Tiso]

Cannot possibly true. They would not reveal such a major plot from Infinite Crisis like that. Red herring in my opinion. It was an interesting read.

[bugsypal86]

Well DC did just release Teen Titans Annual after Teen Titans#33. And hey that was about the same character.

[Jason Kanno]

Great issue. Really digging this arc. Makes me wonder how Clark lost his abilities and how Superboy died. Of course Superboy is dead. This is no red herring. Johns has foreshadowed his death to perfection, but I also get a feeling that he won't be gone forever.

[jonsnow]

For the first time in a LONG time Superman is my most anticiapted book and I am enjoying him more than Batman. I like the Face the Face arc, but this Superman stuff is just excellent.

[Fanatix]

I don't think he's dead either. It would just be such a waste for a character thats come along so great to be the one who gets the bullet point at the end of IC.

I mean, if connor did die, it was probably when he went to go face alex luthor and the other superboy. So how would nightwing have survived?

Overall fantastic issue. I'm enjoying getting to know clark kent better and you know luthors got somethin ingenious up his sleeve.

[Ammar Al Subahi]

Supes with a GL ring? Interesting...

[Mark Blicharz]

Supes with a GL ring? Interesting...

I don't think he's gonna take the ring. One, he's enjoying life too much with his wife. Two, taking handouts isn't his way. Also, Connor is most likely not dead. They may have seen him "die" but there's a mysterious Supernova running around.

[Jim Wright]

Well
Just because there's a statue there doesn't mean the person's dead...Supes's statue is there..it just means he's been lost and presumed dead...
Oh and who is this Supernova person people are talking about???
Personally I think it's smart for DC to drop hints that Connor meets a bad fate in IC so now more people may get it to see what happens..

[Tiso]

Well
Just because there's a statue there doesn't mean the person's dead...Supes's statue is there..it just means he's been lost and presumed dead...
Oh and who is this Supernova person people are talking about???
Personally I think it's smart for DC to drop hints that Connor meets a bad fate in IC so now more people may get it to see what happens..

I hardly doubt that would be a major reason for people to get Infinite Crisis now if they haven't been getting it period, or all those tie-ins from Infinite Crisis. Has anyone thought about the possibility of Supernova being

Clark Kent, when he takes the GL ring for a little bit? Otherwise it has to be Conner. I refuse to accept he is dead when Infinite Crisis is not over.

[jonsnow]

I hardly doubt that would be a major reason for people to get Infinite Crisis now if they haven't been getting it period, or all those tie-ins from Infinite Crisis. Has anyone thought about the possibility of Supernova being

Clark Kent, when he takes the GL ring for a little bit? Otherwise it has to be Conner. I refuse to accept he is dead when Infinite Crisis is not over.
I was thinking that actualy. Makes sense, Supernova is Kent with the ring. I am a bit curious about the ring. It was green, and was given by a green lantern, however it distinctly has the superman emblem, not the Green Lantern emblem. Is it an actual GL ring, or some creation of Hal's?

[JX141]

Damn it now I have to go buy another superman book!!! and I really dont like superman.

[Mark Blicharz]

About Supernova. It can't be Clark with the ring. In Superman #650, Supernova is mentioned as making another appearance in a frame hung on the wall in the Daily Planet. Action #837 happens after that so there's no way it's Clark with the ring.

[jonsnow]

About Supernova. It can't be Clark with the ring. In Superman #650, Supernova is mentioned as making another appearance in a frame hung on the wall in the Daily Planet. Action #837 happens after that so there's no way it's Clark with the ring.
Thanks for that observation.

[Tiso]

See, I too would have known that if I bought the 2 issues. It is good, but not enough for me to get it monthly.

[Ammar Al Subahi]

I was thinking that actualy. Makes sense, Supernova is Kent with the ring. I am a bit curious about the ring. It was green, and was given by a green lantern, however it distinctly has the superman emblem, not the Green Lantern emblem. Is it an actual GL ring, or some creation of Hal's?

If I know my superlore right, Clark was supposed to be the GL of Krypton from the beginning, right? Maybe this is the ring he was supposed to get ring?

[Blake Petit]

If I know my superlore right, Clark was supposed to be the GL of Krypton from the beginning, right? Maybe this is the ring he was supposed to get ring?

That's true, Amar.
It was revealed some time ago that, had Krypton not exploded, Kal-El would have eventually been that sector's Green Lantern, and in fact, the destruction of Krypton was Tomar-Re's biggest failure as a rookie Green Lantern. The Guardians later determined that Kal-El accomplished more good as Superman than he would have as a Green Lantern and erased the mark from Tomar-Re's record.

As for that being the same ring, that's kinda hard to say one way or another. A great many rings were destroyed when the Corps imploded and again when Parallax destroyed Oa. Plus there's no telling if Tomar-Re's old sector has any Lanterns OYL or not... at least not yet.

[Mark Blicharz]

If I know my superlore right, Clark was supposed to be the GL of Krypton from the beginning, right? Maybe this is the ring he was supposed to get ring?

Not only that, he was supposed to be one of the greatest ever due to his willpower. The other reason he won't get the ring is can you imagine Superman with his full powers plus a GL ring? Even temporarily he wouldn't use it. It's too much power since he has no idea when his powers will return. We know he gets them back by at least issue #4 where he's on the cover holding a train back.

Blake and I were talking and we had a few theories about why he hasn't recieved his powers yet. Lois has three words to tell him and they could very well be "Clark, I'm pregnant." This would allow her to be completely safe since the child wouldn't have superpowers in the womb and allow writers to give him/her powers later on due to the Kryptonian DNA in the child. Mxy also did tell Clark and Lois that a child was in their future. What if Mxy is purposely stopping Clark from regaining his powers so he could have that child?

[Sasquatch]

super powered infant on the way!
make way, make way
the superman dynasty is starting
one million be blessed!

[Jim Wright]

Mark
I love the idea of Mxy helping the Kents have a baby. If I remember Rucka's stories right, the baby should be conceived soon after the "bad times."

[Blake Petit]

You're absolutely right, Jim. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Rucka was laying the ground for this back then.

[Jiggaman Tiga]

Superman...destinied to be a GL before Krpton's destruction....and now look at him today

lol. cosmically the luckiest man ALIVE.

i mean seriously, choose the most powerful weapon in DC or the skill group full of the classical and most powerful super powers in all comics....

heck, where's my ring or Superman-type abilities. Solomon Grundy wants pants too...

[Blake Petit]

Luck has nothing to do with it -- the same qualities that make him a hero now would have made him a hero even without any powers. It's all about spirit, it's all about WHO HE IS.

[Jiggaman Tiga]

Lol. dont take it as Supes hate Blake. Im just saying, he could have just as easily been a joe blow level kryptonian on a Krytpon that didnt blow up just as easily as he would have been a GL elect or Superman. thats all i am saying.

[Blake Petit]

But y'see, I don't think he could. No matter what happened to him, he never would have been just a "Joe Blow," greatness was always in him, waiting to come out.

[B. Schatz]

If it's true... and I think it is, the writing of Superboy's death has been on the wall for a very long time: especially after getting together with Wonder Girl in the Teen Titans Annual, and the focus on the character during the last few issues of Teen Titans.

Keep in mind, I say this as someone who has only read the first two issues of Identity Crisis. (Yes, the last few issues of Teen Titans confused the heck out of me...)

[Blake Petit]

I'm not disputing that, Brandon, but I still think it's all been set up to be a red herring.

[bugsypal86]

Found this link posted on another website and feel I have to share it. Be warned the link has massive spoilers if true. http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview.php?image=litg/robinspoiler.jpg
If it is legit then wow. Also, the site I got it from had the people discussing that they heard he wasn't dead but thought dead and kept at the fortress being brought back to life a la Superman.

[Adam Chapman]

Found this link posted on another website and feel I have to share it. Be warned the link has massive spoilers if true. http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview.php?image=litg/robinspoiler.jpg
If it is legit then wow. Also, the site I got it from had the people discussing that they heard he wasn't dead but thought dead and kept at the fortress being brought back to life a la Superman.

God Damn! Which comic is that supposedly from? :O

[Fanatix]

Found this link posted on another website and feel I have to share it. Be warned the link has massive spoilers if true. http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview.php?image=litg/robinspoiler.jpg
If it is legit then wow. Also, the site I got it from had the people discussing that they heard he wasn't dead but thought dead and kept at the fortress being brought back to life a la Superman.

It's not real
Alfred called him "bruce" instead of "master bruce"

[Adam Chapman]

It's not real
Alfred called him "bruce" instead of "master bruce"

Things can change in a year... Batman obviously has in a major way...

[Fanatix]

Things can change in a year... Batman obviously has in a major way...

There is no way that would change though. If Alfred all of a sudden, after 60 years of comics, about 40 or so in continuity, stops calling bruce "master bruce" well then just count me out. Obviously the writer just doesn't get their relationship.

[Jim Wright]

That looks like Leonard Kirk art, so I'm guessing part 3 of Face to Face?

And I've seen Alfred call him "Bruce" before when it's a tender subject, like when Alfred talks about the Waynes...usually Master Bruce is "you're being a dummy and not taking care of yourself" kinda phrase..

[Mark Blicharz]

If that page is real it could be this Bruce finally telling Alfred not to call him Master any longer. Bruce's father was Alfred after his biological father's death. Bruce seems to be heading down the path to telling his family how he feels and Alfred is probably the biggest part of that. He's the person who holds him from crossing over to Batman all the time. He's the one that raised Bruce. The one that still looks after him through everything. Bruce may not be comfortable with Alfred calling him master anymore.

[Ammar Al Subahi]

Decided to check out OYL Superman. and IMO it's nothing special sofar, it's good, but not mindblowing or anything. However the cliffhanger of this issue totally makes me want to read the next issue

[Mark Blicharz]

Decided to check out OYL Superman. and IMO it's nothing special sofar, it's good, but not mindblowing or anything. However the cliffhanger of this issue totally makes me want to read the next issue

It'll make sense after tomorrow hopefully. According to what I've heard IC#6 explains how Superman loses his powers.

[jonsnow]

It'll make sense after tomorrow hopefully. According to what I've heard IC#6 explains how Superman loses his powers.
Ok work is boring enough without you making Wednesday seem so far away! Thanks a lot Mark! JK! Seriously though, work is boring as all else. I'll pay someone to come start a fire.....any takers....

[JX141]

Ok work is boring enough without you making Wednesday seem so far away! Thanks a lot Mark! JK! Seriously though, work is boring as all else. I'll pay someone to come start a fire.....any takers....

If someone takes your offer I am going to bid higher... god I love my job though :)

[Logan]

LOL...Hey Jon, it's still not Wednesday. :banana:

[jonsnow]

LOL...Hey Jon, it's still not Wednesday. :banana:
Screw you guys, I'm going home.
(the fire offer is still on the table...)