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thetrooper516
April 23rd 2006, 02:09 PM
There are many references in comics saying he is the 3rd Smartest man in the world. So who are the two above him.

I don't consider Bruce to be smarter than him, there was a previous post in the Arena, and it was clear that most of the posters felt that Holt's intellect is superior to Waynes.

My next thought would be lex luthor, but if we are talking about Post Crisis Luthor, I really have my doubts on this.

Then I thought perhaps it might be Scott Free, but he is a native of New Genisis . I'm assuming that when they say world they mean earth.

So does anyone know who's above Mister Terrific?
Blake Petit
April 23rd 2006, 02:12 PM
I don't even think Scott would be more intelligent -- he's the world's greatest escape artist, yes, but that doesn't necessarily follow that he has more intelligence than Mr. T.

I would venture that perhaps Will Magnus, inventor of the Metal Men, is one of the two.
jonsnow
April 23rd 2006, 02:14 PM
Bizarro obviously
thetrooper516
April 23rd 2006, 02:31 PM
I don't even think Scott would be more intelligent -- he's the world's greatest escape artist, yes, but that doesn't necessarily follow that he has more intelligence than Mr. T.

I would venture that perhaps Will Magnus, inventor of the Metal Men, is one of the two.

:o Touche Blake.
Justin Byrd
April 23rd 2006, 10:38 PM
There are many references in comics saying he is the 3rd Smartest man in the world. So who are the two above him.

I don't consider Bruce to be smarter than him, there was a previous post in the Arena, and it was clear that most of the posters felt that Holt's intellect is superior to Waynes.

My next thought would be lex luthor, but if we are talking about Post Crisis Luthor, I really have my doubts on this.

Then I thought perhaps it might be Scott Free, but he is a native of New Genisis . I'm assuming that when they say world they mean earth.

So does anyone know who's above Mister Terrific?
Why isn't Luthor smarter than Mr. Terrific? Besides, you're saying "smarter", but the thing is that someone can be smarter in some areas and not quite in others.
Fanatix
April 23rd 2006, 10:42 PM
Ray Palmer's probably one
Mark Blicharz
April 23rd 2006, 10:52 PM
Bruce Wayne and Will Magnus.
Blake Petit
April 23rd 2006, 10:56 PM
I think the problem is that we don't know how he's measuring "smarter." Pure scientific knowledge? I'd say Magnus and Ray Palmer. Tactical and strategizing ability? Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor. All-around intellect? Hard to say.
CPT Space Bomb
April 23rd 2006, 11:21 PM
Victor Von Doom
SINALOA
April 23rd 2006, 11:34 PM
All Around smarter I would say Bruce Wayne, ray palmer and probably luthor.
Jiggaman Tiga
April 24th 2006, 12:00 AM
Ray Palmer and Will Magnus.

Bruce Wayne has stolen some of Terrific's tech (ie Obsidian Age). That pretty much knocks him a peg or 2 lower than Terrific IMO.
thetrooper516
April 24th 2006, 12:14 AM
I think the problem is that we don't know how he's measuring "smarter." Pure scientific knowledge? I'd say Magnus and Ray Palmer. Tactical and strategizing ability? Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor. All-around intellect? Hard to say.


That's a good question. In IC when Mr. Terrific says he's the third smartest man in the world, what definition are they using? I just think it's a pretty interesting question because there are so many super-intelligent heros and villians out there. You guys have already mentioned Ray Palmer, Will Magnus, Batman. I know Slade probably isn't as intelligent as these guys but the guy uses 90% of his brain capacity.
CPT Space Bomb
April 24th 2006, 12:18 AM
HAH, so.........err..............this is DC characters only I'm guessing?
Justin Byrd
April 24th 2006, 09:43 AM
Ray Palmer and Will Magnus.

Bruce Wayne has stolen some of Terrific's tech (ie Obsidian Age). That pretty much knocks him a peg or 2 lower than Terrific IMO.
Just because you take someone else's tech doesn't make you less inteligent. It means your not as tech savvy, but I'd still put Bruce's planning abilities above Terrific's.
Blake Petit
April 24th 2006, 05:43 PM
HAH, so.........err..............this is DC characters only I'm guessing?

Well yeah. Mr. T said he was the third smartest man in the world, and as he lives in the DC universe, neither Reed nor Doom are in the ranking system.
CPT Space Bomb
April 24th 2006, 07:00 PM
I kinda figured. But Doom demanded I throw his name out there or I'd be flogged.
Mike D'Alfonso
April 24th 2006, 10:10 PM
How about Steve Dayton a.k.a Mento? With his Mento helmet, it not only grants Dayton telekenitic powers, but I also believe it enhances his intelligence as well.
Justice Blues
April 25th 2006, 02:30 PM
If you are adding people with that kind of enhancement, you have to remember Thinker and a few others I have blanked on. :sigh: I know they are out there, but my mind lost them. :o

Personally, I would go with Wayne and Luthor, in that order. People like Palmer and Magnus are very intelligent, but they are also focused on one area. And I wouldn't say that Wayne is less tech savvy then Holt. He was inspired by the T-Spheres, but used them in a different way because they fit what he wanted to do. And he managed to come up with OMAC and other things on his own.
Six_Winged
April 25th 2006, 10:51 PM
Brainiac from LOSH......too bad it's from the future.
Magneto X
April 27th 2006, 02:59 PM
All dummies to Metron! :)
Jim Wright
April 27th 2006, 06:48 PM
Michael's got 3 Phd's. Bruce is smart, but I'd have to say Michael is more intelligent.

I'd probably go Will Magnus, Emil Hamilton and then Michael.

Bruce is more of a Jack of All Trades.
Magneto X
April 27th 2006, 06:51 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f106/vancegathing/crazy/Mentok_the_Mindtaker.jpg
thetrooper516
April 28th 2006, 12:14 AM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f106/vancegathing/crazy/Mentok_the_Mindtaker.jpg


That was Awesome:LOL:
thetrooper516
May 17th 2006, 10:54 PM
Based on 52, week #2, it seems like the answer to this question is Dr. Magnus (which has already been mentioned) and Professor Morrow.
Blake Petit
May 17th 2006, 10:54 PM
Yeah, people tend to forget ol' T.O...
thetrooper516
May 17th 2006, 10:57 PM
Yeah, people tend to forget ol' T.O...


I'm not really with Professor Morrow, and does anybody have a quick tidbit of info.

And whats T.O.
Blake Petit
May 17th 2006, 11:00 PM
T.O. His initials. They stand for "Thomas Oscar," but c'mon, say it out loud. ;)

He's a time-travelling villain who has built a few Androids to send against the Justice League, including Amazo and two that turned on him, Red Tornado and Tomorrow Woman.
demon
May 17th 2006, 11:01 PM
i believe it is Doctor T.O. Morrow, who invented Tomorrow Woman with someone else.
Jiggaman Tiga
May 17th 2006, 11:35 PM
and here i was betting that it was Terrel Owens.....:LOL:

and i agree that 52 did kinda answer the question for me....but i was SHOCKED that Ray Palmer wasnt in the running. he damn sure had better be the 4th :LOL:
Jim Wright
May 18th 2006, 03:29 PM
T.O. Morrow created Tomorrow Woman with Professor Ivo. Also, someone erroneously attributed Amazo to Morrow. It was Ivo who created Amazo.
Blake Petit
May 18th 2006, 04:51 PM
That was me -- even I'm not perfect all the time. :D
Jim Wright
May 18th 2006, 04:55 PM
I know..I didn't want to go all "nyah nyah nyah nyah" at one of the respected DC History guys...

but yeah I wanted to ;)
Picard
May 19th 2006, 08:55 AM
Bizarro obviously

Well according to Batman/Superman #25 you might be right. Just expose Bizarro to blue kryptonite and he turns into a 12-level intellect.
That's "Spinal Tap-high" considering that the scale only goes up to 10 :LOL:
jonsnow
May 19th 2006, 08:58 AM
Well according to Batman/Superman #25 you might be right. Just expose Bizarro to blue kryptonite and he turns into a 12-level intellect.
That's "Spinal Tap-high" considering that the scale only goes up to 10 :LOL:
Any everyone thought I was being facetious...